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Quiksilver should probably stick to surf gear. Granted the gloves fitted pretty well and they were waterproof, but I hadn't even had them for a season before they broke. As I recall, they'd actually only been worn for 2 weeks before they died. I was understandably pissed off because I'd just blown over $100 on gloves that didn't stand up to any serious snowboarding. The only thing these had better than the Burton Toast that quickly replaced them is that the Quiksilver gloves are two piece and can taken apart for drying.